Which is better: Short-term Trading or Long-term Investing?
I have just started reading about investing a few days ago so I still have a long way to go. Currently, I’m reading Ben Graham’s "Intelligent Investor" and from what I’ve read so far, he’s adverse to speculative trading/day trading and he advocates long-term investing and looking at the value of a company rather than merely looking how its price fluctuates in the market. He cites many examples of speculative traders who incurred big losses in the long-run.
But then, I’ve been following this forum where a professional day trader talks about long-term investment being merely a propaganda. He is saying, to the best of my understanding, that we should take advantage of the volatility of the market and never ever buy-and-hold. And he seems to be very knowledgeable in this area and he’s making big profits out of it. I’ve also read a couple of articles saying that buy-and-hold is a myth and we should always do something about the market trends. But these are the very things that Graham warned the non-professional investor about.
Now, I don’t know what to believe. I don’t know if I will have the answers after finishing Graham’s book. :[
Why don’t you try doing both? Do stock trading, but if the trade turns to the red side, become investor until the trade ends on the green.
You can do either one but you have to find your investment style. Even stock trading depends a lot on short of mid term investment and requires fundamental analysis of a company before putting your money in. Right now the market is so low, that no matter which successful company you put your money in, you will make a profit. May be negative daily fluctuations might slow down your progress on daily trading, but if you stay firm on your goals and don’t let emotions take over your actions, you will succeed.
If you want to do stock trading, I recommend you do a lot of reading about investor styles. It’s easier to pick successful stocks by picking stocks that big investors use. You will also need to learn about doing technical analysis if you want to learn when to enter or exit the market. Consider buying a subscription for stock technical analysis. They usually give tips as well. Learn about support, resistance and risk on stocks. Big investors do thorough analysis of companies that any small investor will not be able to match. They have teams analyzing companies and investigating them. Interviewing with managers, before making a decision to invest money on those companies. Stocks are not lottery tickets, they are a part ownership of a company.
Even the majority of those big investors, do stock trading. They may not trade stocks daily, but they might do it monthly or quarterly. The only investor that buys and holds is Warren Buffett.
One more thing, never leave a trade on the negative. If you have done all your fundamental and technical analysis correctly… that is, you are investing on a company that is undervalued, you are buying near support, and still the stock falls, it means that an unusual thing is happening. The stock will rebound to its real value eventually… You have to learn to be patient and let the market discover the gem you have on your hands. Warren Buffett says, that if you can’t tolerate to see an investment drop 50% below its value, then you have no business on investing. So, those people advising to cut losses on investments are either gambling money or they just don’t know anything about investing.
Good Luck and try trading on your style, not Graham’s.
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long term- less risky
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Wthout really going into what is treated as nearly a religous issue, with short term trading you will be incurring larger transaction costs and have to pay higher short term capital gains taxes.
In short term investing, you have to have the time and inclination to pay very close attention to your investments.
Which ever way to go, best of luck to you!
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Let me guess — this "professional day trader" is looking to sell you admission to his "online trading room"?
It is certainly possible to earn high returns in short-term trading, but data on the topic consistently indicate that over 90% of people who try short-term trading fail.
To me, this "professional"’s use of the term "propaganda" in describing long-term investing all but guarantees that his claims are bogus. Unless he is posting, on a freely available forum, all his trades BEFORE or AS he makes them (as opposed to claiming them after the fact), then to me it seems that you have no way of knowing whether he’s profitable. And even if he DOES post them before, he may be using "survivorship bias" to his advantage by posting on multiple forums and/or under multiple aliases.
I wouldn’t pay anyone for "day trading advice".
My guess is that if you try short-term trading, you will likely lose a lot, but there’s a SLIGHT chance you’ll become quite successful. And if you try long-term investing in Graham-type companies, you will likely do quite well, although results will show up only over a period of years.
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Warren Buffett calls The Intelligent Investor by Benjamin Graham, the best book on investing ever written. So I would tend to favor Graham’s advice.
This is just a message board, and anyone here can claim anything they want. That doesn’t make it so. You want to take any advice you receive here with a ‘large grain of salt’. Even mine.
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Do Both,
1) stay diversified
2) build your position over time (Dollar cost average)
3) study short term trend in the market. After you put enough research and get a feel of overall dynamic of the market; there’s nothing wrong to short the market with a ETF like SDS or SH; when market rallies ahead of it self like last week. Or if you spot a beat down stock that provide your opportunity for some short term profit. You can reduce you loss during down turn and improve your overall portfolio performance.
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Why don’t you try doing both? Do stock trading, but if the trade turns to the red side, become investor until the trade ends on the green.
You can do either one but you have to find your investment style. Even stock trading depends a lot on short of mid term investment and requires fundamental analysis of a company before putting your money in. Right now the market is so low, that no matter which successful company you put your money in, you will make a profit. May be negative daily fluctuations might slow down your progress on daily trading, but if you stay firm on your goals and don’t let emotions take over your actions, you will succeed.
If you want to do stock trading, I recommend you do a lot of reading about investor styles. It’s easier to pick successful stocks by picking stocks that big investors use. You will also need to learn about doing technical analysis if you want to learn when to enter or exit the market. Consider buying a subscription for stock technical analysis. They usually give tips as well. Learn about support, resistance and risk on stocks. Big investors do thorough analysis of companies that any small investor will not be able to match. They have teams analyzing companies and investigating them. Interviewing with managers, before making a decision to invest money on those companies. Stocks are not lottery tickets, they are a part ownership of a company.
Even the majority of those big investors, do stock trading. They may not trade stocks daily, but they might do it monthly or quarterly. The only investor that buys and holds is Warren Buffett.
One more thing, never leave a trade on the negative. If you have done all your fundamental and technical analysis correctly… that is, you are investing on a company that is undervalued, you are buying near support, and still the stock falls, it means that an unusual thing is happening. The stock will rebound to its real value eventually… You have to learn to be patient and let the market discover the gem you have on your hands. Warren Buffett says, that if you can’t tolerate to see an investment drop 50% below its value, then you have no business on investing. So, those people advising to cut losses on investments are either gambling money or they just don’t know anything about investing.
Good Luck and try trading on your style, not Graham’s.
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Which is better, long term or short term trading? That depends on you, which one fits you best. You might be comfortable with both. If you have TradeStation, I recommend plugging your system(s) in and give them both a go – see what fits you best. Paper trading to start might be best.
Also, the systems you trade – One may give you patterns all the time with little profits here and there and everywhere. Another system may give signals few and far between, but when it’s a go, it can really go. So you might want to look at the kind of system that’s right for you too. Good luck!
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March 25th, 2010 at 9:45 am
It’s best to diversify your investments and go long-term.
I suggest exploring the Web site fool.com.
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http://www.fool.com/